tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post1091276123257715676..comments2023-10-02T03:46:00.384-07:00Comments on EYE M SICK: Thoughts on the Little Prince...Bigmouthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04885083460724621786noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-58459323486125808042009-02-17T19:20:00.000-08:002009-02-17T19:20:00.000-08:00"There isn't any time travel". . .yet.Reading this..."There isn't any time travel". . .yet.<BR/><BR/>Reading this post made me think of something. If the outrigger travels through time with the Lefties because they're touching it (one of the characters said that's how it works), what would happen if they were touching a person - Rousseau, for instance - during a flash? It's probably not important, but it makes me curious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-62553514621380109752009-02-11T09:59:00.000-08:002009-02-11T09:59:00.000-08:00At Black Lotus's suggestion, I rechecked the quote...At <B>Black Lotus's</B> suggestion, I rechecked the quote about no aliens or time travel being on Lost. It was indeed made by Damon in an <A HREF="http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/handheld/30246.html" REL="nofollow">interview with SciFiWire</A>. Interestingly, however, he never expressly denies the possibility of aliens, though many interpreted the reference to "space ships" as that:<BR/><BR/><B><I>As the show progresses, [Damon Lindelof] added, it won't venture too far into science fiction as its mysteries unfold. "We're still trying to be... firmly ensconced in the world of science fact," he said in an interview. "I don't think we've shown anything on the show yet that has no rational explanation in the real world that we all function within. We certainly hint at psychic phenomena, happenstance and... things being in a place where they probably shouldn't be. But nothing is flat-out impossible. There are no spaceships. There isn't any time travel."</I></B>Bigmouthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04885083460724621786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-85784680614936007442009-02-08T13:57:00.000-08:002009-02-08T13:57:00.000-08:00@3D good call. Add that to NetProphet's mention of...@3D good call. Add that to NetProphet's mention of Boone's nanny falling up falling down the stairs and that BOTH scenes were in Locke's dreams, maybe Jacob was fine-tuning Locke's unconscious with the way the Island moves, in that it vibrates (skips) at a different frequency to avoid detection, and now its simple vibrating (record-skipping) differently since the turning of the wheel.Wayne Allen Salleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17199261942617339556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-79112359648685451682009-02-08T12:33:00.000-08:002009-02-08T12:33:00.000-08:00Scott Webster said..."What if the scene of Goodspe...Scott Webster said...<BR/><BR/>"What if the scene of Goodspeed replaying himself in front of Locke is a "record skipping" as mentioned earlier in the season?"<BR/><BR/>Not sure about that, since he mentioned to Locke that he had been dead for 12 years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-74350105383257719172009-02-08T12:31:00.000-08:002009-02-08T12:31:00.000-08:00Blogger lost2010 said..."If Faraday hadn't told t...Blogger lost2010 said...<BR/><BR/>"If Faraday hadn't told them they were time jumping, how long would it have taken the rest of them to figure out that's what was happening? That will be Jin's problem, no? There's no one to explain to him about the skipping record. Unless Rousseau's crew knew more than we thought. His only clue at the moment is that Danielle Rousseau to him is a much older woman."<BR/><BR/>I think Jin can tell something is screwy by the fact that day and night each last a few minutes at a time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-59614031760424167512009-02-08T08:38:00.000-08:002009-02-08T08:38:00.000-08:00Very good points Wayne and 80sPro. :-)Wow, Styx, t...Very good points Wayne and 80sPro. :-)<BR/><BR/>Wow, Styx, that is interesting, I din't even know that there is a sequel.Capcomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06841675195251354073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-72830454653757462392009-02-07T19:30:00.000-08:002009-02-07T19:30:00.000-08:00In the sequel, The Little Prince Returns the shipw...In the sequel, The Little Prince Returns the shipwrecked narrator encounters the Little Prince on a Island.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-45868200062940419492009-02-07T16:15:00.000-08:002009-02-07T16:15:00.000-08:00Re; the whispers. I've read the transcripts off an...Re; the whispers. I've read the transcripts off and on, I recall one that made it seem like Nikki and Paolo were talking, thought this was after their death. I think it was the episode in which Hurley finds Jacob's cabin. I don't concentrate on the whispers much, as they seem to be sort of theatrical (Michael hears the whispers right before the freighter blows up?), but right now it seems as if the whispers are from everyone on the Island (Oceanic 815s, Others, even Hostiles) talking as the Island skips. It might work both ways, the Left Behinds hearing themselves, as well. With the way the writers do all this stuff with ARGs and comic con videos, reading the transcripts might be something to do for added insight. In the case I mentioned, I came away from it thinking that Nikki and Paolo had found Jacob's cabin, as they had the Pearl, and just ignored it. If the whispers are due to the skipping going back to S1, some of that dialogue might fill in the gaps they've not been able to put in the show proper. An example being Taller Walt, as 80sPro suggests.<BR/><BR/>Capcom, I misread your question. But, adding to the replies, Jin might recognize her name if nothing else, because, before learning English, one of the first things he'd likely have picked up on was learning people's names for recognition. So that matches with the episode with Jin, Bernard, and Sayid, as she was there, in the background, but even looking as she did in 1988, Jin likely recognized her by name as much as anything else.<BR/><BR/>Enjoying the posts.Wayne Allen Salleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17199261942617339556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-49684762872560611592009-02-07T13:22:00.000-08:002009-02-07T13:22:00.000-08:00Capcom, ever since we saw the "Lefties" start to j...Capcom, ever since we saw the "Lefties" start to jump all over the place, my good friend said right off that the whispers from seasons past was ALL the various ways the Island was trippin'. So yeah, the Lefties are in the the jungle whispering, and somewhere in the space/time continuum they are hearing themselves. Like I said, totally explains "Tall Walt." Oh, and the horse.GasbarNuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13789202277016083694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-32661289090666298962009-02-07T11:07:00.000-08:002009-02-07T11:07:00.000-08:00hi bm - nice write up once againif memory serves i...hi bm - nice write up once again<BR/><BR/>if memory serves it was david fury who said there was no aliens/time travel on the show<BR/><BR/>cheers<BR/>BlackLotusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-1718348166787025072009-02-07T10:30:00.000-08:002009-02-07T10:30:00.000-08:00Thanks friends for the Jin/Danielle info. I was tr...Thanks friends for the Jin/Danielle info. I was trying to figure out where he might have seen her to remember her, but it could be that he only heard of the main Losties talking a lot about her. He certainly must have heard that Danielle tried to take Aaron, that some crazy French chick was shooting at them, and maybe also that Hurley got a battery from her too.<BR/><BR/>I'm not too crazy about reincarnation becoming a focus either, 80spro. But then again, I'm not crazy about all the talking dead people either. For instance, how could AnaL have a patrol car? Was the patrol car dead too? :o)<BR/><BR/>BTW, I got the shivers this ep when Sawyer was watching Kate and Claire, and it made me think that maybe the whispers are the time-skippers whispering in the jungle and watching the Losties doing things, trying to talk to each other without upsetting the time balance. :-o Probably not, but it still gave me goosebumps to think about it at that time.Capcomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06841675195251354073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-39540645444191125862009-02-07T09:03:00.000-08:002009-02-07T09:03:00.000-08:00I am not at all certain that they aren't changing ...I am not at all certain that they aren't changing events. I know that the writers have alluded to great classics like Slaughterhouse 5, but that doesn't mean that they will fully subscribe to each or any or all of the theories of time travel that they have used as "guides". So really we don't KNOW if they can alter events or wake up with new memories. I believe that if Rousseau were still alive she WOULD in fact wake up with a new memory.<BR/><BR/>About Reincarnation - THAT is interesting. But at what point does it end? Who does it begin with and end with? A lot of people have died. Is it conceivable that all dead characters can be brought back? I hope not because that's too convenient - too neat. And I don't want Lost to end too neatly. But if CERTAIN important or key characters can be - like Locke. Like Christian Shepherd. <BR/><BR/>Nice work with The Little Prince. I'd be looking Alpert's way for that. And I am thinking more and more that Charlotte is Danny's Girl. Will be interesting to get the truth. Yep, Miles is a Hallochang. Explains his "powers". <BR/><BR/>But my big thing is the flashes effecting memories and in essence the future. There will be others who wake up with "memories". Desmond isn't going to be the only one. I'm sure of it.<BR/><BR/>One more thing. How are Ji Yeon, Charlie, and Aaron going to be okay if Penny gets killed, Kate goes back, and Sun goes back? Lindelof and Cuse have HAD to have thought that out.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and we now have an explanation for "tall Walt".GasbarNuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13789202277016083694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-22822226688576791722009-02-07T07:22:00.000-08:002009-02-07T07:22:00.000-08:00I wonder two things about Danielle & Jin's...I wonder two things about Danielle & Jin's meeting and why she didn't recognize him in the future: <BR/><BR/>1) Would she have woken up like Desmond with a new memory of meeting Jin in the present if she was alive? <BR/><BR/>OR <BR/><BR/>2) Is the fact that she & all her crew-mates are dead the only reason she was able to meet Jin?<BR/><BR/>I can't determine if Daniel's statement that the past can't be changed is true or it's just that he wants to prevent people from trying it. <BR/>-JAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-78526129840466807242009-02-06T20:07:00.000-08:002009-02-06T20:07:00.000-08:00capcom: skimming over danielle's profile on lostpe...capcom: skimming over danielle's profile on lostpedia, the only mention of Jin's name (after 2004) is around the season 3 finale when Jin stays behind to shoot at the others. i'm probably going to have to watch these episodes, there isn't a real concrete answer on the site.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-48780100006330328072009-02-06T18:56:00.000-08:002009-02-06T18:56:00.000-08:00Capcom, even if the had met, I really think she wa...Capcom, even if the had met, I really think she was fairly insane to recall anything from sixteen years ago. Depends on how long before the next flash, I suppose, but I lean towards everyone forgetting what happened once the next flash hits. Only Desmond shield his eyes from the effect, only Desmond has a memory. I wonder if Jin has been on that beach through each flash.Wayne Allen Salleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17199261942617339556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-17938110577279104722009-02-06T17:07:00.000-08:002009-02-06T17:07:00.000-08:00Well Neaux, TPTB pretty much took us there by nami...Well Neaux, TPTB pretty much took us there by naming the French boat after the Little Prince's asteroid.<BR/><BR/>Going by duration of time on the island makes it easier to keep track of the bloody noses, for sure. Doesn't explain it still but...it helps to line up the victims.<BR/><BR/>If Sayid is necessary for saving the island, the island just might not let Widmore kill him anyway. So, sleepy-darts are allowed, heheh.<BR/><BR/>To save me from having to rifle through Lostpedia for a 1/2 hour to find it, could someone please tell me when Rousseau and Jin came face to face? Or how she knows him? Thanks ever-so! :-xCapcomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06841675195251354073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-52057540544191376572009-02-06T16:47:00.000-08:002009-02-06T16:47:00.000-08:00"no Korean mom would waste money on the mini-bar."..."no Korean mom would waste money on the mini-bar."<BR/><BR/>I definitely know what you're talking about there.KoreAmBearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10847567300078301313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-76698064866325713042009-02-06T14:14:00.000-08:002009-02-06T14:14:00.000-08:00Good post, as always, Big. I still hold with my th...Good post, as always, Big. I still hold with my theory that, whoever you are in your real identity, its a cross between Faraday and Richard Alpert. I've always assumed that a past advance civilazation was on the Island, even before the thought of volcanic extinction came into play. Never mind the donkey wheel or the ruins, its that damn comic. I read it when it came out, and when you watch the episodes from S1, it seems as if Jacob "sees" through Locke, watching Walt, maybe catching the alien in the comic. Remember what Walt tells Michael (back to your thoughts on narrow-mindedness)? He couldn't read Spanish, but he could still look at the art. Perfect for Jacob, but then Walt's ability freaked gim and the Others out. Maybe Aaron always was the intended choice, but Jacob thought it might be good to have Walt as a back-up, I dunno.<BR/><BR/>I thought the episode was great in that we got insight into so many different characters, on-Island and off. And I suppose the reason for using Ajira, aside from the Island perhaps being closer to the Indian Airlines flight routes, would be to show future jumps like last episode, the water bottle in the boat.Wayne Allen Salleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17199261942617339556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-15118459985640370692009-02-06T12:43:00.000-08:002009-02-06T12:43:00.000-08:00According to Lostpedia (my LOST Bible ;) ) Boone ...According to Lostpedia (my LOST Bible ;) ) Boone was injured in the Beechcraft plunge around day 41. Locke took him back to the caves for treatment, then returned alone to the hatch. He banged on it and a light came on. ("Deus Ex Machina")<BR/><BR/>The next episode, still around day 41, was when Claire's baby was born sometime later that night I think ("Do No Harm"). So the sequence of the time-traveling Losties witnessing these events was essentially correct.Barry Wallacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08691670547045531673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-78496083582330200612009-02-06T11:27:00.000-08:002009-02-06T11:27:00.000-08:00I'm surprised you went the root of the Little Prin...I'm surprised you went the root of the Little Prince book, when most LOST Theorists are connecting the title to the books of Narnia and Prince Caspian.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-33404012417107278372009-02-06T10:02:00.000-08:002009-02-06T10:02:00.000-08:00Good post and comments so far! I thought that I co...Good post and comments so far! I thought that I commented yesterday when I first read through, but I guess not.<BR/><BR/>I was wondering that myself Ellipsis, about the title. The show wasn't Aaron-centric really, but the shot of him sitting at the table in the hotel room with all the room service food did make him look special. But I assumed what you said about the boat's name.<BR/><BR/>I used to be open to aliens on this show a while ago, but now that it's gotten so complicated I don't know for sure if I would like that. Although, if TPTB somehow attrubute the 4-Toed species to aliens I guess that would be OK.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for posting the illustrations from the book Big, mine doesn't have those and I only have the 1974 movie as a reference. Guess I'll be taking a trip to B&N this weekend to check it out.Capcomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06841675195251354073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-26253709027791359242009-02-06T07:48:00.000-08:002009-02-06T07:48:00.000-08:00I was thinking about how Montand "lost his arm" a...I was thinking about how Montand "lost his arm" as well as Pierre Chang. What if for whatever reason a property of the island during time disruptions causes the crazy blood pooling in appendages that Boone experienced during "Do No Harm"? That would mean that Jack killed Boone by <I>not</I> trying to fix him.<BR/><BR/>-xAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-37618021658352315352009-02-06T06:13:00.000-08:002009-02-06T06:13:00.000-08:00I thought this was a very good episode and even be...I thought this was a very good episode and even better post. I loved the whole little price book and how it ties into everything...we gotta meet this Jacob guy he has some explaining to do... In total agreement with JLes about the Farday/Charlotte deal<BR/><BR/>Also the episode confirmed something I posted about last week and 2 Scott's above have somewhat touched on...<BR/><BR/>The LOST folk (Locke and Co.) are in a time loop and everything is happening somewhat simultaneously - it was mentioned that significant things happen each time they jump in time and that much is true. This also is evident pre-donkey wheel time warp...<BR/><BR/>Before many major turn of events in the earlier seasons there is whispers, ppl used to rumor that the others had power etc. I am pretty convinced that these are evidence of the time warp happening at the same time, however the ppl in the past do not see the purple light it comes to them in the form of "whispers"<BR/><BR/>It seems that the group chooses to get involved when they can (Locke, Faraday, etc.) but perhaps cannot at other times because of course correction - those events happened for a reason and cannot change and happen another way. Also, in agreement with Scott, these events seem predestined and they will warp at the major events...Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12695084895027308866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-71245730131709812242009-02-05T19:19:00.000-08:002009-02-05T19:19:00.000-08:00That translation for the frenchies box alluding to...That translation for the frenchies box alluding to the asteroid from the "Little Prince" book was a good catch. I was glad to see that this episode didn't totally focus on the cast in LA, there were some truly great moments on the island. Sawyer has been one of the more dynamic characters as the show has progressed, and last night when he was frozen in place watching Kate and Claire was one of my favorite moments with his character.<BR/><BR/>I never read the book, but from reading the wiki page on 'The Little Prince', I came up with more connection with Lockes character than any others (namely Aaron).<BR/><BR/>Lost has never been scared to show us a dead body to ensure that a character is truly dead. So last nights Jin reveal wasn't a huge surprise, but a very welcome plot development none the less. I think that Locke/Bentham visited basically everyone in the US after leaving, but we aren't sure if he visits Sun (and tells him Jin is alive). So I would venture to guess that this is how Ben avoids getting gunned down by Sun.<BR/><BR/>And oh yeah, Penny is so going to die ;)<BR/><BR/>-nordak-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-76310008756195061582009-02-05T18:06:00.000-08:002009-02-05T18:06:00.000-08:00The Little Prince is buried in that metalic box th...The Little Prince is buried in that metalic box that has the BESIXDOUZE on it. Turns out it's actually the Artist Formerly Known as Prince. Now THAT would be cool.KoreAmBearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10847567300078301313noreply@blogger.com