tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post3074823148229121756..comments2023-10-02T03:46:00.384-07:00Comments on EYE M SICK: Thoughts on the Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham...Bigmouthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04885083460724621786noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-51359651296879967872009-03-04T16:08:00.000-08:002009-03-04T16:08:00.000-08:00From zetts: machramm, that's a great point!!! If...From zetts: <BR/><BR/><B>machramm</B>, that's a great point!!! If they landed on the Hydra, and Locke had never been to the Hydra, what's he talking about?<BR/><BR/>Maybe he doesn't realize he's on the Hydra, or maybe he's talking about 'the island' in the sense of that locale as a whole. <BR/><BR/>Another thing - were we all supposed to realize they were on the Hydra? <BR/><BR/>My biggest question for this episode is WHY did only some of the O6 go back in time on the island, and the other 06 + Ben + Lipidus land on the Hydra? If it's true that Sayid is on the island in the 70's, and Sun is on the Hydra, why didn't Sun go back in time as well?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-78799440339579171872009-03-03T23:06:00.000-08:002009-03-03T23:06:00.000-08:00I just re-watched the last few minutes of the epis...I just re-watched the last few minutes of the episode and heard something interesting. <BR/><BR/>When Locke came into the room where the new guy was reading the Hydra file Locke told him he had been on "THIS island" for over 100 days. To my recollection, Locke has never been on the Hydra island before and even if he has it was not for 100 days.<BR/><BR/>Did anyone else catch this? I'm thinking it is just a coninuity error, but I wanted to bring it up anyway to get some other folks' thoughts. Seems like a silly slip-up.machrammhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05187792513642363907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-61739820260324828852009-03-03T16:13:00.000-08:002009-03-03T16:13:00.000-08:00Through emails I had told both Big and CapCom my t...Through emails I had told both Big and CapCom my thoughts on the Medusa spider. As with those who now say that having Jin's ring was the way to get Sun to come along, I had said the equivalent of making a post on Locke being paralyzed, not dead, because the way to get Jack to spiral out of control would be if he saw Locke's dead body. Jack, who wanted to save everyone. The idea might still work, certainly we've seen something mentioned for a reason, and the Medusa spiders certainly fit the bill. Last week's episode really tore me away from that line of thought. Last June, it was like, yea, Ben the trickster. This far into the season, its hard to buy the Locke in a coma thing. But you never know, which is the total beauty of LOST.Wayne Allen Salleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17199261942617339556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-15955473782087640262009-03-03T16:04:00.000-08:002009-03-03T16:04:00.000-08:00hmm... maybe paulo and nikki had some sort of use ...hmm... maybe paulo and nikki had some sort of use after all XDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-88550206361268225152009-03-03T15:20:00.000-08:002009-03-03T15:20:00.000-08:00@Jason...Now that's thinking outside the box. Goo...@Jason...Now that's thinking outside the box. Good memory Jason.machrammhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05187792513642363907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-68843372780492921482009-03-03T15:09:00.000-08:002009-03-03T15:09:00.000-08:00Is it possible that Ben only choked Locke to the p...Is it possible that Ben only choked Locke to the point of unconsciousness, injected the spider venom, and kept him on it until before the crash? This would be a good way to get Locke ultimately committed, making him think the island resurrected him.<BR/><BR/>For some reason I can't shake the feeling that there was a reason for those spiders other than it being a cool way to kill those characters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-77886114623618361372009-03-02T09:45:00.000-08:002009-03-02T09:45:00.000-08:00wow! I get mentioned in a post.. thanks!I can't wa...wow! I get mentioned in a post.. thanks!<BR/><BR/>I can't wait to be proven utterly wrong by the writers!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-64325169473526319412009-03-02T06:53:00.000-08:002009-03-02T06:53:00.000-08:00I came across this quote some years ago(forgive me...I came across this quote some years ago(forgive me but I haven't been able to track down the source): <BR/><BR/> <I>"On the last day in History the ultimate computation will simulate the Universe and resurrect the dead!"</I><BR/><BR/>Having re-discovered the quote it got me thinking, so I began (and still am) looking into certain religious and ethic views, in particular ones that reference God as a Machine. Many people (in certain circles) believe that at some point during this century A.I will outstrip humanity, there are also several sites which speculate that man and machine will merge, wiping disease and death from the World - making resurrection and realistic possibility.<BR/><BR/>Ultimately all this got me thinking about Lost, and the Island, and Richard. Two of the most mysterious elements of the show for me, are indeed Richard and the Island. I remember people speculating that Richard was a super human, or some form of Alien - but after reading these articles I find myself willing to accept the possibility that Richard could be a highly evolved Human, perhaps from the Future, perhaps not that is safe-guarding the Island. Time-lines and temporal distortions aside, is the Island really a bit-size chunk of Heaven? I've no idea, but I do think though - seeing as Richard has not aged - that it is in some form or another, a relic of greater things.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><I>I wonder, I wonder then... Is Locke really so special, is Locke God-like? Or is he indeed just a steward for the Island, or consequently is he the salvation Humanity has waited for?</I>Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18432963792981843945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-51533067588323631422009-03-01T22:30:00.000-08:002009-03-01T22:30:00.000-08:00Emilie & 80sPro: True in both cases. In rewatc...Emilie & 80sPro: True in both cases. In rewatching the episode, you can see that Locke having Jin's wedding ring changes everything, but, as noted, there are several levels of reason (to speculate on) in various characters' scenes together.<BR/><BR/>Bigmouth: glad to see the bullet points. As noted above, its easy to overanalyze, and I think that's been the case with who Jacob is, yours is a new one. Interesting take that the battle is over chaos and order, maybe the chaos would involve what Faraday insists to be the case, that you can't change the past, yet it is starting to look as if Ben is going to try and do just that. That line of thinking, Widmore would be the original chaos guy, presumably changing time to become rich through the stock market, etc. Ben could still be an agent of order, taking care of the O6, etc., but even Ms. Hawking knows he's starting to think in his own interests.Wayne Allen Salleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17199261942617339556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-360608190650924572009-03-01T16:25:00.000-08:002009-03-01T16:25:00.000-08:00Christie - I often wondered if Ben was making up s...Christie - I often wondered if Ben was making up some of his own power too. Seems whenever in a real place to do something major and powerful, he makes someone else "push the button" - case in point, Jack operating on his back. You might be on to something there with him not really "hearing" Jacob.<BR/><BR/>Emilie: Interesting.....I think Darlton want us to read more into things - often it's been a lot simpler than we've theorized to smithereens. Will I stop postulating because of this possibility? No, nevah!GasbarNuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13789202277016083694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-9294787712335396492009-03-01T08:57:00.000-08:002009-03-01T08:57:00.000-08:00Big: I like the idea of Ben projecting himself bac...Big: I like the idea of Ben projecting himself back in time to "know' all of these events. Very Kitty Pryde in X-Men's "Days of Future Past." That would also be a great episode title for the next season...James Elliotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03734369486110287961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-29655585640835332882009-03-01T01:02:00.000-08:002009-03-01T01:02:00.000-08:00my thoughts on Ben killing John rather than lettin...my thoughts on Ben killing John rather than letting him do it himself have a simpler explanation. I'm convinced that some people may be reading too far into this. My speculation is simply that Ben needed John alive to convince the 6 to go back to the island. However, John then told Ben about Jim being alive and his promise not to tell Sun, and in turn, Ben realized that it would never be a possibility that John would try to get Sun to go back. Knowing John had the wedding ring, Ben realized that he would be able to persuade Sun to come back by showing it to her (as we have already seen him do) but since John seemed set on his word, Ben needed John dead so he could freely go to Sun. I don't think there is any more to it than Ben's realization that John had his mind made up that he wouldn't show Sun the ring. I think Ben knew that whatever John's purpose is could be served after he died- he simply didn't want him to just yet until he realized about the ring.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05314101605969167580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-65419767294242755682009-02-28T13:49:00.000-08:002009-02-28T13:49:00.000-08:00It's Landa. Decided to finally post under my acoun...It's Landa. Decided to finally post under my acount. Good episode. Still processing a lot of stuff. Some really good comments here, as usual. Even though my faith was shaken for a little bit, still leaning on the side of Ben being good. Widmore is not to be trusted. Have a hard time beleiving that he was a leader @ 17; too ruthless. Also think Penny knows more than leading on. That's it for now, going back and think on it some more ...Rambling Thoughts of Poohbearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13148898842579168226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-38277584346379043912009-02-27T21:00:00.000-08:002009-02-27T21:00:00.000-08:00@Stacy, JLes corrected me on Penny's age ("The Con...@Stacy, JLes corrected me on Penny's age ("The Constant" occurring in 1995, so doh on my part), but before the time travel business, I wondered about if time passes differently, but that came from seeing Alpert not aging much. Re: Radzinsky, more like seeing the stuff he saw when he saw it, why the crossed out station, why he disregarded the Orchid as a botanical station. Inman said he had a photographic memory, why didn't he see FourToes or the Pala Ferry? Maybe this will come to light, as well as the aging thing.Wayne Allen Salleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17199261942617339556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-37434868831862761772009-02-27T19:46:00.000-08:002009-02-27T19:46:00.000-08:00Wayne - I'll take a look! I'd like to see what hap...Wayne - I'll take a look! I'd like to see what happened with Radzinsky too.<BR/>As many others have said, I question Widmore's statement that he was on the island for 30(ish?) yrs. Even if he was part of the incident in '85/86, it would line up with his age in 1954, but would put him far too late to have fathered Penny. The only two things I can call into question: does time move that much differently on vs. off the island? Could Penny be an adoptive daughter to Widmore as Alex was to Ben?Stacyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11548481933147106056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-14568674920004572062009-02-27T19:45:00.000-08:002009-02-27T19:45:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Stacyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11548481933147106056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-19173525872060883892009-02-27T16:28:00.000-08:002009-02-27T16:28:00.000-08:00@Stacy, check the blast door map markings. There w...@Stacy, check the blast door map markings. There was some kind of incident in 1985 or 1986. This could coincide with Widmore leaving. One of the things I'd like to see is a day in the life of Radzinsky, the guy who manned the Swan with Inman.Wayne Allen Salleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17199261942617339556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-90431370833495434902009-02-27T13:51:00.000-08:002009-02-27T13:51:00.000-08:00I read a lot and don't really comment, but have on...I read a lot and don't really comment, but have one tiny thought:<BR/>Ben said he couldn't return to the island after turning the wheel. He passed leadership to Locke. Ben then landed on smaller Hydra island instead of the main island.<BR/>Locke also turned the wheel, and although he's brought back to life, he is also sent to the Hydra island.<BR/>Maybe the island simply will not allow them to get any closer.<BR/>Perhaps that's how Ben got rid of Widmore - created a reason for him to have to turn the wheel and be ejected?<BR/>I haven't thought it all through, but it seems as logical as anything so far...Stacyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11548481933147106056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-79377739021961913392009-02-27T13:07:00.000-08:002009-02-27T13:07:00.000-08:00Ben Linus - Saint PeterBen Linus - Saint PeterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-81083899185074086022009-02-27T08:16:00.000-08:002009-02-27T08:16:00.000-08:00Here's something else I've been thinking about. W...Here's something else I've been thinking about. What if Ben never really could speak to Jacob but was able to somehow convince everyone he did? I think back to when Locke and Ben were in the cabin the first time. Ben is talking to the empty chair but as Locke is leaving he is the one who hears Jacob. Ben asks him later what he heard and it seemed like he really didn't know. Almost like Ben knows Jacob is there but really doesn't communicate in the ways the Others think he does. A main hole in that theory though is that Richard sees Ben when he's 10 and I don't know if we can believe Ben was evil or smart enough at that age to cook up a future plan. (unless of course he figured out how to time travel and make Richard think he too was special). Just a random thought I wanted to put out there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-52230545120483490452009-02-27T08:14:00.000-08:002009-02-27T08:14:00.000-08:00P.S. Haha Big, the very first time that we saw Loc...P.S. Haha Big, the very first time that we saw Locke wiggle his toes on the beach I thought, "Hey, Locke wears Gold-Toe socks! Product placment!"<BR/> <BR/>X-DCapcomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06841675195251354073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-25133805032379520072009-02-27T08:11:00.000-08:002009-02-27T08:11:00.000-08:00You know Ernie, that puts Richard in a very enviab...You know Ernie, that puts Richard in a very enviable and safe (and funny) position. In his niche, he seems to have the option of helping choose and oust the island commander-du-jour. He helps put in power whomever is desirable and special enough to be in charge at that point in time, and then when they get out of control (which so far as we know they all seem to do) he gets to help kick them out and find the next in line. Pretty nice gig. :-DCapcomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06841675195251354073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-76453112043807263902009-02-27T07:48:00.000-08:002009-02-27T07:48:00.000-08:00I'm not so sure Widmore is to be believed either. ...I'm not so sure Widmore is to be believed either. It would surprise me if he was willingly thrust into the leadership role by Richard. I mean, look at the cocky, brash Widmore we met in 1954. Why would Richard take a backseat to him?<BR/><BR/>Perhaps Richard assisted Benry in overthrowing Widmore.Erniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11840072441170086136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-44831619926854963352009-02-27T07:02:00.000-08:002009-02-27T07:02:00.000-08:00At this point I think neither Ben or Widmore is a ...At this point I think neither Ben or Widmore is a "good" guy. They're both greedy to keep/take the power of the ring - sorry the island. (I'm beginning to see the island like the ring in LOTR, it drives people crazy with power if they are in control of it and those who had it will do anything to get it back.) I think the 815ers are just innocents caught in the crossfire. <BR/>-JAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-88075082257217459482009-02-26T20:11:00.000-08:002009-02-26T20:11:00.000-08:00Wayne/Aaron - I like the idea that the new plane p...Wayne/Aaron - I like the idea that the new plane people took the boats to the main island. Once it was confirmed that last night's episode definitely landed near the Hydra station the continuity bothered me. During the time jumping they always were on the same land they were standing on just a different time. It bothered me. So I guess then we can assume that Locke forms a party with at least some which take the 2 remaining boats to the mainland to find the Losties/others. (which of course they won't find yet since they appear to be in different times)<BR/><BR/>I know it seems to easy to think that Ben is evil but I've always subscribed to the idea that he might actually believe he is "good" but the murders and pain he has caused others just can't justify him to be a good guy. I still can't trust Widmore either but part of me wants him to be on the good side. I really hope this show at some really delves into the lives of the Others so we can understand how they came to this Island and realized they need to protect it. I can't wait to see where they go to tie this show up but I hope they are able to maintain consistency from earlier years with all the time jumping.<BR/>Great comments everyone. Always love to hear what Big and the rest of you have to say. This blog is a constant for me as much as watching the show every week (pun intended) :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com