tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post4212198045410833107..comments2023-10-02T03:46:00.384-07:00Comments on EYE M SICK: Thoughts on There's No Place Like Home, Parts 2 and 3...Bigmouthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04885083460724621786noreply@blogger.comBlogger68125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-65831661612111588702008-12-31T10:24:00.000-08:002008-12-31T10:24:00.000-08:00Juanita: Very interesting character analyses! I e...<B>Juanita:</B> Very interesting character analyses! I especially like your point that Jack and Kate are introverts at heart. <BR/><BR/>This would certainly provide an alternate explanation for Kate's attraction to Sawyer. I wonder if that's why Jack was attracted to Sarah, who seemed like more of an extrovert to me.Bigmouthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04885083460724621786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-61130342408611767772008-12-31T00:21:00.000-08:002008-12-31T00:21:00.000-08:00"Kate and Sawyer are too similar to end up togethe...<I>"Kate and Sawyer are too similar to end up together -- they each need someone more Apollonian to balance their Dionysian tendencies. That's why I believe Kate will end up with Jack, and Sawyer with Juliet."</I><BR/><BR/><BR/>I disagree. I think that Sawyer and Kate's similarities are superficial. From an emotional point of view, I believe they are different. Sawyer strikes me as more of an extrovert and Kate, an introvert.<BR/><BR/>On the other hand, both Jack and Kate seem like introverts. And both have a tendency to cling to their illusions. They remind me of a younger version of that couple from "MR. AND MRS. BRIDGES", who end up barely speaking a word to each other.<BR/><BR/>I don't think that Jack and Kate are suited for one another. Personality wise, I don't think they balance each other at all. Unfortunately for Jack, I can say the same about his relationship with Juliet. She is another introvert that he could do without. And yet, like Kate, she can balance out Sawyer's extroverted personality.<BR/><BR/>I think that Jack needs a woman with an extroverted personality in his life. Neither Kate or Juliet can provide that for him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-73842272084397560862008-12-22T10:03:00.000-08:002008-12-22T10:03:00.000-08:00The season finale reminded me a lot of Season 4 in...The season finale reminded me a lot of Season 4 in general. It was pretty good, but had a lot of flaws. And I feel that it may have been slightly overrated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-11152293888973375882008-06-12T13:54:00.000-07:002008-06-12T13:54:00.000-07:00And don't forget the reversed Ursa Major in the sk...And don't forget the reversed Ursa Major in the sky when Sayid and Hurley were sitting on the beach listening to Glen Miller.<BR/><BR/>http://capcomslost.blogspot.com/2007/11/random-quirky-mystery-part-1.html<BR/><BR/>But way back then, we didn't know about the island moving.Capcomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06841675195251354073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-7182725001442678322008-06-11T08:54:00.000-07:002008-06-11T08:54:00.000-07:00Cha: Emo...?Wayne: Brilliant! The constellations ...Cha: Emo...?<BR/><BR/>Wayne: Brilliant! The constellations analogy is precisely what I've been looking for to explain how moving the Island in time might reorient it in space, as well. Brilliant!<BR/><BR/>Capcom: Very interesting re polar reversal -- Darlton have been talking a lot about antipodes recently.Bigmouthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04885083460724621786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-34669698326503763832008-06-09T15:01:00.000-07:002008-06-09T15:01:00.000-07:00I'll raise you one even further Wayne, what about ...I'll raise you one even further Wayne, what about when the earth's magnetic poles reverse?! Heheh. I wonder if that affects the vortices positions as well? We are supposed to be due for one of those shifts soon-ish, so They say.Capcomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06841675195251354073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-67465304831301032912008-06-08T18:45:00.000-07:002008-06-08T18:45:00.000-07:00Hey, Bigmouth. I was signing books in St. Louis o...Hey, Bigmouth. I was signing books in St. Louis over the weekend, just back to it now. What I meant about Ben and the polar bear both showing up in Tunisia is that Tunisia is the end portal. If Abe Vigoda (very much alive, and private joke between big and me, sorry)had moved the donkey wheel, he would be in Tunisia. But this still wouldn't explain when/where the Island moved to. I put my theory out there without explaining it correctly. You move the wheel, you are in Tunisia (at least in recent times), but even you might not know where the Island moved to. And if you (or lovable 'ol Abe Vigoda) didn't know where the Island moved to, then Widmore couldn't know, either. He could SPECULATE, hence the freighter trips, but Ben and the bear in the same end place wouldn't mean anything. I'll raise you on your wackadoo theory on the Black Rock...what if the Tunisia end portal moves over time just as our night skies have seen several pole stars over the millenia? When you move the wheel you get shot as close to magnetic north as the wormhole can send you (granted, not that close). I keep wanting to see the Northern Hemisphere play into this, going back to when Hurley was playing Connect Four with Toomey and Sam won the game with it looking like a mirror image Big Dipper...Wayne Allen Salleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17199261942617339556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-83600538141216284162008-06-07T21:45:00.000-07:002008-06-07T21:45:00.000-07:00yes, sophia is "numoh, numoh, eepo-dah". -da' chayes, sophia is "numoh, numoh, eepo-dah". -da' chaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-15350621750614898702008-06-07T09:21:00.000-07:002008-06-07T09:21:00.000-07:00Heheh, it's funny to think about how the DI might ...Heheh, it's funny to think about how the DI might have tried to use the raw power of the FDW more than once, and that there are polar bears littered all over Tunisia, and/or the other vortices spots. :o)Capcomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06841675195251354073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-53125657158933515852008-06-06T15:01:00.000-07:002008-06-06T15:01:00.000-07:00Wayne: Interesting speculation! But if knowledge ...Wayne: Interesting speculation! But if knowledge of the polar bear allowed Widmore to find the Island, and Ben landed in the same zone as the polar bear, wouldn't that imply the same routes of access still work? In other words, wouldn't Widmore still be able to find the Island? I have a feeling something fundamental has changed. Maybe, by moving the Island forward in time, its portals have necessarily been reoriented in space.<BR/><BR/>Here's a whackadoo speculation: did Magnus Hanso move the Island forward in time? Is that why the Black Rock looks so new? Maybe Alvar is old Magnus after all...Bigmouthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04885083460724621786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-82179670000525617742008-06-06T10:00:00.000-07:002008-06-06T10:00:00.000-07:00Actually, Bigmouth, it was just my thinking about ...Actually, Bigmouth, it was just my thinking about Charlotte finding the polar bear skeleton in Tunisia. To take it further, let's say that was the ONLY polar bear in Tunisia, as I'm of the belief that the bear was there because the Island had been moved ONCE, to hide it from Widmore. Once Widmore knew where the skeleton was (i.e., which vile vortex it ended up at), he had Abaddon (or Naomi) set up the away team. Widmore/Hanso had to know of the wheel, it was clear it had moved, the coordinates in Tunisia meant something for them to get the freighter that close.Wayne Allen Salleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17199261942617339556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-78357561893332778692008-06-06T08:40:00.000-07:002008-06-06T08:40:00.000-07:00Anonymous: Very provocative insight! It sure seem...Anonymous: Very provocative insight! It sure seems like Abaddon knows a lot about the Island. I could easily see him selecting Miles to speak with the dead generally, and Jacob specifically. I could also see someone (Jacob?) working to get a specific combination of passengers on Oceanic 815. I suspect, however, that the O6 are different. Their inability to return has something to do with these particular people having some destiny to fulfill on the Island.<BR/><BR/>Wayne: Did you see Doc Jensen's wrapup column over at EW.com? He has a similar speculation to your own that the polar bears were being trained to turn the frozen donkey wheel. This continues to make a lot of sense to me -- good thinking!Bigmouthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04885083460724621786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-12630195399317752382008-06-05T18:10:00.000-07:002008-06-05T18:10:00.000-07:00Interesting point Anonymous, I like it.Interesting point Anonymous, I like it.Capcomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06841675195251354073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-30093995238466973592008-06-05T05:45:00.000-07:002008-06-05T05:45:00.000-07:00Thinking about Charlotte "being previously on the ...Thinking about Charlotte "being previously on the island": If all of our Islanders need to be together to get back to the island...is it possible that holds true for anyone who gets off the island? Is that why Abbadon wants Charlotte, Farraday, and Miles to all go on the mission even though Naomi disagrees. Could Whidmore have gotten these people together to help in his attempts to find the island? Maybe Lapidis, too, but his age doesn't really match. I mean, I know that each of those three has their own "talents", which would make them good "candidates" for going on this mission, but could Miles be able to speak to the dead specifically because he came from the island? Just a thought.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-47849353859291492682008-06-04T16:46:00.000-07:002008-06-04T16:46:00.000-07:00BigMouth,We did mention the flowers there.BigMouth,<BR/><BR/>We did mention the flowers there.Sam Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10544026352539917304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-78227019799543167842008-06-04T11:58:00.000-07:002008-06-04T11:58:00.000-07:00Alex: Thanks for the link!dj: We didn't get the La...Alex: Thanks for the link!<BR/><BR/>dj: We didn't get the Large Hadron Collider or Dr. Candle's missing arm, but we did get another purple sky! Which reminds me, I wish Lost would slip even more popular music into the show. How cool would it have been if the Island disappeared to the opening riffs of Purple Haze? BTW, I think the date in the Octagon commercial is for Comic Con in San Diego, the same event where they premiered the original Orchid Orientation.<BR/><BR/>Capcom: I believe Halliwax referred to "negatively charged exotic matter." To me, that suggests that the matter in question has not only negative mass (i.e., it's "exotic") but negative charge, as well. Could this be a reference to antimatter? The wiki for "exotic matter" notes that, while most physicists believe that antimatter has positive mass, there are those who predict the opposite, which would make the stuff exotic.<BR/><BR/>Apocalypse: Yes, I'm a tad tired of the M. Knight formula myself. As you note, however, a well crafted twist can be a powerful storytelling device. What I like about Lost generally, and this finale specifically, is that the twists drive the narrative forward. That's not the case in M. Knight's films, where the twist usually concludes the story. BTW, I agree 100% about Elizabeth Mitchell's expressive face. I especially love how she communicates with her eyes and Mona Lisa smile.<BR/><BR/>Lolagrrl: I wondered why those three myself. The best explanation I can think of is that these three were likely to have people keep looking for them. Boone was rich and I'm guessing Libby was too (her husband owned a boat) while Charlie was famous. Having the O6 confirm their deaths offers a level of certainty that would be lacking if they were simply presumed dead. As for your Charlotte speculation, I think she's a little young to be Ben's childhood friend. What if she's Annie's relative like Wayne suggests -- or ever her daughter by another man?<BR/><BR/>lil-beeyotch: Agreed -- this was a very moving episode with the pain of Jin and Sun's separation offering poignant contrast to the joy of Desmond and Penny's reunion. I have a feeling these two couples have a very important role to play in the end game of the show. In that regard, Jack and Desmond's line may well have been ironic foreshadowing, along with Jack's line about never wanting to see Frank again. I'm also totally with you about Aaron looking especially evil in those scenes with Kate. I keep expecting his little towhead to do a 360 degree turn LOL!<BR/><BR/>BTW, what makes you think Dan made it back to civilization? I get the sense he's still on the Island and that there will be renewed conflict between the forces of science and faith. Come to think of it, is that be the bad things that Locke/Bentham?<BR/><BR/>Jason: True, but I find nonetheless fitting that the Wrath of Khan season ends with the death of a fan favorite like Spock or Locke (hey!). Besides, I have faith Locke will live on, first in flashbacks and eventually via the Island. I'm with you that Ben working again for John doesn't make sense unless this is some ruse to force the Island to take him back. In fact, I can't shake the suspicion that he killed Locke as part of the plan.<BR/><BR/>BTW, see my comment above about Kate's dream. The phone tells Kate she has to come back to the Island just before Claire orders her not bring Aaron back. We seem to have two distinct voices working at cross purposes in the same dream!<BR/><BR/>neaux: I, too, totally thought of Howl's Moving Castle! Interesting that Sawyer refers to Aaron as "turnip head" at one point. I also like your metaphor of the chess game, which also resonates with the Alice references. I often wonder if the reversed speech we occasionally hear (e.g., wet Walt and Kate's phone call) are the result of someone experiencing the arrow of time in reverse like the White Queen remembers the future in Through the Looking Glass.<BR/><BR/>Wayne: Polar bears turning the frozen donkey wheel? That's brilliant! Maybe Dharma exposed animals to its effects before building the Vault? I think you're right on target that the hotel has been accepting guests under the Moriarty name for some time. The clerk's reaction presumably reflects surprise that someone as young as Ben could have been visiting the hotel for so long. As for Charlotte being related to Annie, I'm with you 100% -- see my comments above to Lolagrrl.<BR/><BR/>And have no fear, I will definitely be updating EyeMSick over the hiatus! I may even put together a podcast or two in preparation for the new season.<BR/><BR/>lisa: Whoah...that's a great question re Desmond's vision of Claire getting into the helicopter! Do you suppose that's why Jacob sequestered her in the cabin? He wanted to prevent Desmond's vision from becoming reality? More than ever, I feel like the conflict is between those who want to change the timeline and those who would protect it.<BR/><BR/>Anonymous: Thanks for your kind words! But there's a world of brilliant television you're missing. For example, have you checked out the remake of Battlestar Galactica? I suspect fans of Lost would find much to enjoy about that show. As for the body of Jeremy Bentam, I like the connection you and Apocalypse cite to Bentham's body at University College London. The image of them schlepping around his corpse for the next two years cracks me up -- very Weekend at Bernie's LOL!<BR/><BR/>SKID: LMAO! I suspect (hope?) that one of the reasons the writers left Faraday on the Island was to set up a scene next season where he explains how Smokey works.<BR/><BR/>Anonymous: Interesting...I hadn't considered that the reference to someone else leaving the Island was to Des. But I still think it's Locke because both Sun and Widmore want to find the Island again. Only someone who was on it when it moved would know where it's now located. Sets up an interesting race to find the Island that pits Jack and Ben's group against Widmore and Sun's.<BR/><BR/>James: A reference to Ben would make sense too. But see my preceding comments to Anonymous -- I have a feeling the point is to set up a race between two factions to find the Island. Sun is telling Widmore that the Island is once again accessible to the world so they should team up to find it. As for the Island sinking, like Capcom, I suspect the ripples were the result of water filling the empty space left by the Island's disappearance.<BR/><BR/>Lia: Very interesting theory re the Swan button and moving the Island! My own speculation is similar to your own. I think the Swan moved the Island slightly out of sync with the rest of the world -- and kept it there. When Des failed to push the button, the Island moved briefly back in sync with the world, allowing the Swan's powerful electromagnet to pull the plane apart.<BR/><BR/>Anonymous: Thanks! Interesting speculation about Sun blaming Ben for the death of her husband. But wouldn't she be just as likely to blame Widmore for Keamy's conduct? I actually think Ben was the one who helped orchestrate her takeover of Paik Indus. Again, my suspicion is that Sun wants to get back just as surely as Jack does. I even wonder if she's being haunted by the ghost of Jin...<BR/><BR/>Anonymous: Interesting...I missed his reference to their golf game. I actually think this makes it more likely that Widmore is referring obliquely to the Island. As I describe in Purple Sky, golf is a great metaphor for why it's so hard to find the Island. And don't forget -- Paik apparently *did* have an agent on the Freighter in Charlotte. Speaking of Ms. C. Lewis, I like your speculation that reincarnation is somehow at play. What if teen Ben got Annie pregnant in their mid teens, which is why Ben went to such lengths to protect Alex from Karl's advances?<BR/><BR/>Christie: Very interesting interpretation of Kate's dream! Under this reading, the backwards phone message might represent some inner conflict over whether she should or shouldn't go back. But consider this -- we've yet to see a single dream on Lost that didn't come true in some way, shape, or form. My guess is that Kate's dream will be no different...<BR/><BR/>kansasgal: LOL! I know what you mean -- losing the fuselage right after the season finale was really frustrating. BTW, I was thought of your Michio Kaku thread when we saw Halliwax. It occurred to me that Francois Chau's various characters might be a shoutout to the groovy Dr. Kaku!<BR/><BR/>machramm: LMAO! The typo wasn't intentional, but it works so well I think I'll leave it. I also think you're right about what Christian meant when he said Michael could go now. Here's what keeps frying my noodle: how and why does zombie Christian change his clothes?<BR/><BR/>SamG: D'oh! Looks like lostpedia led me astray on this one. But thanks for the correction -- could the red be a reference to a color code ala Lucidity's Sewing Kit theory?Bigmouthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04885083460724621786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-72845400911998332872008-06-04T10:34:00.000-07:002008-06-04T10:34:00.000-07:00Just being picky, *Anthuriums are the same flower ...Just being picky, <BR/><BR/>*Anthuriums are the same flower surrounding the manifestation of Yemi whom Eko accused of impersonating his brother.<BR/><BR/>They are not the same flower. <BR/><BR/>http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage.php?pid=78893&fullsize=1 - Red Ginger<BR/><BR/>http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage.php?pid=117343&fullsize=1 Anthuriums<BR/><BR/>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AnthuriumSam Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10544026352539917304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-28399716257050248492008-06-04T09:39:00.000-07:002008-06-04T09:39:00.000-07:00Awesome Wayne, I thought of the same connection wi...Awesome Wayne, I thought of the same connection with the early backgammon games!M The Alienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15005218138691713467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-86472032128950124162008-06-03T17:36:00.000-07:002008-06-03T17:36:00.000-07:00Good point Wayne, and if the Losties were indeed m...Good point Wayne, and if the Losties were indeed manipulated into being on that plane, going to the right place, at the right time, they really were pieces on the board. <BR/><BR/>Heheh, I laffed at that to Machramm. :-)Capcomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06841675195251354073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-24132878445100465882008-06-03T11:01:00.000-07:002008-06-03T11:01:00.000-07:00@neaux and the rest: glad you brought up the ches...@neaux and the rest: glad you brought up the chessboard. Sometime after the White Rabbit episode and last summer's Orchid video (the one with the swearing, you can see that now on the S3 DVD), I've been thinking of lines from Jefferson Airplane's "White Rabbit" song. Along with certain recurring images like black, white, and backgammon, it's like certain people are being manipulated and moved, like on a chessboard. Even lines in the song about logic and proportion (the light scatters?) and the White Knight talking backwards (the Whispers). Wooden men on the chessboard makes me think of puppets or marrionettes. Ben and Widmore playing chess, Hurley and Eko doing the same. Just my two cents.Wayne Allen Salleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17199261942617339556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-23227268949664207962008-06-03T10:42:00.000-07:002008-06-03T10:42:00.000-07:00When Christian appeared and told Michael he "can g...When Christian appeared and told Michael he "can go now" I think he meant that he was free to die now. His purpose was fulfilled. It's the only reason I can think of for that line.<BR/><BR/>@BM: I had to laugh at the irony of your typo (if it was a typo) when you wrote "That's because the Island is a place where the living and DAD can interact..."machrammhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05187792513642363907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-44068450494773656852008-06-03T09:13:00.000-07:002008-06-03T09:13:00.000-07:00I don't know why but I expected two wheels for mov...I don't know why but I expected two wheels for moving the island.<BR/><BR/>like one for latitude and longitude... assuming the island is moving to another location on earth.<BR/><BR/>but maybe one wheel could move the island like a specific chess piece.<BR/><BR/>Maybe just diagonally like the bishop, or maybe all over like the Queen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-55388498232141659952008-06-02T20:22:00.000-07:002008-06-02T20:22:00.000-07:00Anonymous -- Sun blames her father and Jack for Ji...Anonymous -- Sun blames her father and Jack for Jin's death, as evidenced by Jack's rambling at the end of the finale.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-15508856588729565782008-06-02T17:22:00.000-07:002008-06-02T17:22:00.000-07:00ACK!! Fuselage is still DOWN!!! I am already sta...ACK!! Fuselage is still DOWN!!! I am already starting Lost summer hiatus withdraw, and no lage to give me a lost fix!!!<BR/><BR/>I agree that even though we have been show more information, we are given more questions than answers. Now we know the orchid is not the magic box, what the hell is??? And to think, we have to wait until Feb to find out more... there had better be a very good summer lost experience!!!!KansasGalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02949827696398490274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-32520882337881696362008-06-02T11:37:00.000-07:002008-06-02T11:37:00.000-07:00I like your ideas about the crash and Swan Lisa!Go...I like your ideas about the crash and Swan Lisa!<BR/><BR/>Good points Anon about Locke telling Sun about Keamy, and Ben not caring if he killed people. And also about the Charlotte timeline. Maybe the whisperers are telling Miles some things too?<BR/><BR/>That's what I was thinking too Crhistie about Claire, while I was trying to simplify how complicated it seemed. Would TPTB throw us off track like that? I think it's very possible. :-)Capcomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06841675195251354073noreply@blogger.com