tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post5451446800076819681..comments2023-10-02T03:46:00.384-07:00Comments on EYE M SICK: What I Meant to Say...Bigmouthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04885083460724621786noreply@blogger.comBlogger78125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-69979476537131303732009-03-18T17:44:00.000-07:002009-03-18T17:44:00.000-07:00See you on the flip-side friends! :-DSee you on the flip-side friends! :-DCapcomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06841675195251354073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-3844541485576968922009-03-18T17:15:00.000-07:002009-03-18T17:15:00.000-07:00Wayne, yes the last ARG did end rather badly, some...Wayne, yes the last ARG did end rather badly, something about Hoodlum messing up or pulling out, or whatever, or ABC ending the contract due to the economy, I forget. Does anyone else remember? It was not a planned ending though, at any rate. Anyway, the TPTB apologized and set up Ajira cuz they love us so much, right?<BR/><BR/>Heheh, Bad Twin had dismal sales I guess because it was a dismal book. I admit, I bought it on sale at least, but I wanted to have it for posterity anyway. But it was like reading one of those "Young Adult" books, at about that mentality level. :o)Capcomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06841675195251354073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-57727003313743815902009-03-18T15:35:00.000-07:002009-03-18T15:35:00.000-07:00@Aaron, I was thinking, if not ham radio, even som...@Aaron, I was thinking, if not ham radio, even something like morse code. I forgot to mention in my earlier posts that, by the height of the Cold War, there dozens of listening posts around the world. Check out the Conet Project, the active ones can be downloaded. So Hanso could have been communicating with the Hostiles via, say, the Danish Consulate in some US city.<BR/><BR/>@Capcom. I had forgotten all about that Persephone and DJ Dan and Sri Lanka video cra--ah, stuff (Ha, ha). Maybe S5 or S6's box sets will include extras on loose ends. I'd settle for them putting the Sri Lanka video and some of the transcripts by Rachel you find on Lostpedia on one of the DVD sets, seeing as they are already available online. <BR/><BR/>Did the last Dharma ARG end abruptly? Maybe it was because the shift went towards the mystery of Ajira Airways. The same could have happened with Mittlewerk, if I get your comment correctly. Perhaps they expected BAD TWIN to sell better, I think a large part of that book dealt with him.<BR/><BR/>It all comes back to Richard, I guess, being as old as he is. A decent episode involving him as the primary--not so much a centric episode but one which connected a few dots like Nikki and Paulo's tale--could easily give us the timeline we need and the characters in play. Richard could bring up, i.e., Mittlewerk (I really, really just want to say "stuff not on the show itself", but, hey, truth be told, I think it was/is a good experiment on the creators' part to try alternative media, even if it meant learning a lesson by BAD TWIN's dismal sale figures), and the Sri Lanka video as a way of how the DI became corrupted, why a Purge was needed, there are ways through Alpert's discussions with, say, Sawyer and Jack and Faraday that we never even have to see an actor in Mittlework's role. Alpert's explanations would be enough. I think he can be very concise with every person we've seen him speak with, and his nuances speak volumes more than if they actually had a scene with Mittlewerk in it.Wayne Allen Salleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17199261942617339556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-9498670569367391382009-03-18T13:19:00.000-07:002009-03-18T13:19:00.000-07:00Wayne, I guess whether the Hostiles could have com...Wayne, I guess whether the Hostiles could have communicated with Alvar back in 1954 depends in part on whether Alvar had ever been to the Island before or knew its properties. I imagine they could have figured out some kind of radio communication. <BR/><BR/>The other possibility is Alvar didn't know anything about the Island, other than it was place crazy old Magnus had bequeathed to him/told him about/given him wacky drawings and maps to, until around the 1950s.<BR/><BR/>Capcom, I'm intrigued by the idea of a Smokey-repellent that prevents him from scanning or invading you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-58774717578246879482009-03-18T13:01:00.000-07:002009-03-18T13:01:00.000-07:00Someone somewhere (here?) wondered if the vaccine ...Someone somewhere (here?) wondered if the vaccine could have been a drug that would keep Smokey from doing to them, what Smokey was able to do to the B612 team. I thought that was an interesting thing to imagine...say, the DI finds that Smokey has done it to some of their early crew, so the DI puts up the fence and creates some kind of serum that affects certain parts of your brain so that Smokey can't get to it. ???Capcomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06841675195251354073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-36855560910158424822009-03-18T11:56:00.000-07:002009-03-18T11:56:00.000-07:00I don't think the a nuclear blast would comletely ...I don't think the a nuclear blast would comletely destory the island, but it would certainly render it uninhabitable and make it look not as purty and stuff. Plus why would you risk whatever reaction might ensue when you explode a hydrogen bomb on top of an island that is capable of shifting its location in space-time? Bottom line: Why nuke the most spectacular discovery in human history?<BR/><BR/>The nuclear stuff appears like it would answer some questions: the hazmat suits that Kelvin and the Swan stationers wore (protection from fallout); the shots they took (protection against radiation poisoning); the pregancy problems.<BR/><BR/>But then again, the hazmat suits were shown to have been unnecessary, so whatever story was used to justify them, fake nuclear explosion or otherwise, was likely a ruse to keep the Swam folks locked in and pushing the button; the syringes likewise could have been filled with saline solution (though why then would Ethan have used it on Claire?); and radiation poisoning wouldn't necessarily have caused miscarriages, as a commenter at Popular Mechanics noted, but rather in successful births to deformed mutant babies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-84805146640755151692009-03-18T10:44:00.000-07:002009-03-18T10:44:00.000-07:00LOL! X-DLOL! X-DCapcomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06841675195251354073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-60095842900393915272009-03-18T10:40:00.000-07:002009-03-18T10:40:00.000-07:00maybe Mittlewerk works for Massive Dynamic nowmaybe Mittlewerk works for Massive Dynamic nowsynchrobrarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11330016404676115668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-58369544062765491742009-03-18T10:30:00.000-07:002009-03-18T10:30:00.000-07:00Yes you're right Wayne, my best blog-penpal, I'm s...Yes you're right Wayne, my best blog-penpal, I'm sure that Mittlejerk will not be a part of this story anymore, ever. *sniff* FWIW and FYI, (she sucks in a huge Ace Ventura breath) however all you really need to know now is basically that the last we heard from Mittlewerk, as second in command he had hidden Alvar away and taken over Hanso Inc. and was out to rid the world of 30% of the population due to his manic "research" on the Valenzetti Equation, and therefore, to save the human race from destroying itself, via a very suspicious virus and cure procedure (the Spider Protocol), of which Paik and Widmore industries were involved (including the transport of virus-infected people in the lower compartments of a mysterious freighter), not to mention the possible inclusion of the virus and/or hallucinogens in our soda and candybars. Whew! <BR/><BR/>I guess all that won't figure into the show at all, but it's really annoying to have been left at the end of TLE with Mittlewerk on such a crazy outlaw jag wherein he made threats to carry out his diabolical virus plan on his own on the unsuspecting world. That's a huge story element to leave hanging, but I guess that TPTB have actually done that. And some of us were just hoping for a little closure on that "hanging chad". :o)Capcomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06841675195251354073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-79075038766153512692009-03-18T10:18:00.000-07:002009-03-18T10:18:00.000-07:00May be too soon before the next episode for the co...May be too soon before the next episode for the comments to continue, but for those who follow the stuff beside the show itself, what are your takes on Mittlewerk?Wayne Allen Salleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17199261942617339556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-39551472782854508852009-03-17T22:26:00.000-07:002009-03-17T22:26:00.000-07:00Oh...one other thing:I know there are those who be...Oh...one other thing:<BR/><BR/>I know there are those who believe that Hurley is the only one we can really trust, and he always hated those Numbers...Joseph Charles https://www.blogger.com/profile/02849704279926794392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-37576539016320003482009-03-17T22:23:00.000-07:002009-03-17T22:23:00.000-07:00Wayne: Palimpsest is a great word, and it is a gre...Wayne: Palimpsest is a great word, and it is a great metaphor for Lost.<BR/><BR/>Capcom: I am glad I am not the only one to think that, about the Island as character, I mean. This ties into my response to...<BR/><BR/>Bigmouth: You are precisely right in your question! The Island is almost always considered a benevolent, or neutral, reality, but this is the very, or, perhaps, final twist of the show: what if everyone has betrayed the Island, or vice-versa! Not to harp on the Dr Jones' references (but no other obvious example comes to mind), will the Island, once we have gotten that magic box open, be, in fact, Pandora's?Joseph Charles https://www.blogger.com/profile/02849704279926794392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-90582129087448442912009-03-17T22:11:00.000-07:002009-03-17T22:11:00.000-07:00Ah, my dear friend Capcom. Mittlewerk. From BAD TW...Ah, my dear friend Capcom. Mittlewerk. From BAD TWIN. Or the ARGs. But not from the show itself!!! Argh on that. I've said it before, this is an instance of why Lostpedia is a good resource, because I have absolutely NO idea about what you are talking about re: that dude. No biggie (and no pun intended), I'll just look it up. Wait. Is that Faraday saying "if you looked it up, then you looked it up." Here come the flashes...Wayne Allen Salleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17199261942617339556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-16726911747567726932009-03-17T17:49:00.000-07:002009-03-17T17:49:00.000-07:00It just depends on the H-bomb as to how much of a ...It just depends on the H-bomb as to how much of a blast happens, of course. The Bikini test left remains, but I recall reading that the power of some of the H-bombs tested was completely underestimated and turned out to be a much more devestating blast that expected and actually did blow some islands/atolls away.<BR/><BR/>Well you know Wayne in the case of the island, internment might not be so far off, if the DI could have overpowered the Hostiles. ??? Especially if Mittlewerk had his way, but he's not a factor here...yet. :-)<BR/><BR/>Aaron, you bring up a good point that if Alvar knew of the island and its properties before the Army got there, it stands to reason that he'd want to protect it. If he didn't know about it before then, maybe his eyes were opened when the Army reported their findings and he then decided to defend it with the Hostiles.Capcomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06841675195251354073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-88259966087582095232009-03-17T17:05:00.000-07:002009-03-17T17:05:00.000-07:00@Aaron, how could the Hostiles communicate with Al...@Aaron, how could the Hostiles communicate with Alvar in 1954? Do you think he might have been closer, say, Australia or L.A., and could be contacted by radio or something? It didn't seem that Richard was all about travelling to the mainland until Locke told him to check up on his birth. Could Alvar have funded Mittelos Labs?<BR/><BR/>Capcom: Not trying to get political re: the military, of course. (I shouldn't have mentioned internment camps, that was way off-topic). I agree with Big that it seems that Alvar would be the person in the know about the Island's qualities, not the military. If anything, at least the 1954 encounter illustrates how the Hostiles can be both understanding AND agressive.<BR/><BR/>Big: I would think Jughead might have made a huge crater if it had exploded, not vaporized the Island, you are right on that. Perhaps the Island wouldn't let anyone be harmed from the radiation, maybe the Temple has healing qualities as the exotic water does. The Orchid seems fairly close to the Temple, maybe an underground stream goes to the Temple like the stream that goes to the caves. <BR/><BR/>If people are still adding comments before tomorrow's show, seriously believe Bigmouth in his previous entry: watch BREAKING BAD. It is impossible to describe in any decent way.Wayne Allen Salleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17199261942617339556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-77823756122720798552009-03-17T14:23:00.000-07:002009-03-17T14:23:00.000-07:00Capcom: There's plenty of revisionism, but McNamar...<B>Capcom:</B> There's plenty of revisionism, but McNamara proves surprisingly candid and compelling. It's also just an exceptionally well executed documentary -- probably Morris's best.<BR/><BR/><B>Greg:</B> Nothing's for sure, but I do think it's likely the runway was for Ajira 316. Good call on Lapidus being a great way to confirm that they landed on the partially completed runway.<BR/><BR/><B>FearTheTurtle:</B> I had a flash of the future LOL! <BR/><BR/><B>Aaron:</B> Good point, though I'm not sure the Jughead would have vaporized the Island. Didn't the army move the natives back to the Bikini Islands after the test? Regardless, the time period in question (1950s) predates Alvar's transformation into philanthropist and crusader to save the world. Maybe he didn't yet perceive the Island in those terms...Bigmouthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04885083460724621786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-2482473538158707052009-03-17T13:37:00.000-07:002009-03-17T13:37:00.000-07:00You know? "Oh, I've got this special island, the e...You know? "Oh, I've got this special island, the extraordinary properties of which could fundamentally alter the course of the human race. Let's blow it to smithereens!"<BR/>Unless, a couple other possibilities:<BR/>1) The U.S. military stumbled upon the island. The Hostiles told their man on the mainland, Alvar, who gave them the go ahead to and wipe the military unit out.<BR/>2) Some person or entity that we don't know about yet realized that the Island was dangerous, that it would be either used for nefarious purposes or would wind up being a force for destruction in the hands of misguided idealists (Dharma) and they tried to destroy the Island before it could happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-18701478036840017492009-03-17T13:31:00.000-07:002009-03-17T13:31:00.000-07:00Regarding Jughead and Hanso. The sticking point fo...Regarding Jughead and Hanso. The sticking point for me remains: Why would Alvar Hanso, if knowledge of the island has been passed down to him as a birthright of sorts, allow nuclear testing there? The only way it would make sense to me is if he didn't know the properties of the island at the time, and it was only because of the discovery of the Hostiles that he came to understand it's special properties. BM, can you chime in on thisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-84883105807439685882009-03-17T13:01:00.001-07:002009-03-17T13:01:00.001-07:00Wow, I think it's pretty spooky that BigMouth ment...Wow, I think it's pretty spooky that BigMouth mentions that Md/Cal football game in his blog dated 3/11/09. The NCAA Men's BB tournament brackets were announced on 3/15/09 and who meets up in the 1st round? You guessed it Maryland and Cal. Obviously some course correction going on here. Go Terps!<BR/><BR/>-- FearTheTurtleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-28496918085663954032009-03-17T13:01:00.000-07:002009-03-17T13:01:00.000-07:00when sawyer and kate were hauling rocks for the ot...when sawyer and kate were hauling rocks for the others they did joke they were builing a runway for a UFO<BR/><BR/>but i hope lost is not anoter ET story<BR/><BR/>a question: looks like everyone is assuming the ajira airplane landed on the "runway" they were building, do we know this for sure (well i guess we don't know much for sure but is it most likley lapidis landed the airplane)Greg Tramelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15652524153139042548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-27190110104228978952009-03-17T12:52:00.000-07:002009-03-17T12:52:00.000-07:00I've been meaning to see that movie Big. I have my...I've been meaning to see that movie Big. I have my problems with MacNamara and his "20/20 hindsight" and partial revisionism (IMHO), etc., but you can't fault a person for genuinely learning from the past and saying so if that's the case with him. And, that's what studying history is supposed to be about, so one doesn't repeat it, as the saying goes. :-)Capcomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06841675195251354073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-90455512542285585212009-03-17T11:04:00.000-07:002009-03-17T11:04:00.000-07:00Wayne: Interesting possibility re exotic water! D...<B>Wayne:</B> Interesting possibility re exotic water! Do you suppose Richard Alpert bathed in the stuff? <BR/><BR/><B>darkprose:</B> There was a time when I thought the Island's ancient history would remain a mystery. I figured that relics like Smokey, the four-toed colossus, and the Donkey Wheel were simply generic indicators of some arbitrarily advanced ancient civilization -- mythological Macguffins of a sort. I thought it would be left open whether this advanced civilization hailed from Earth or the stars. But I'm starting to suspect we'll get something more definitive. My guess is that Richard will explain to young Ben about the Island's past. And like you, I think we will learn its origins are extra-terrestrial...<BR/><BR/>For me, the big question about the character of the Island is whether it was supposed to be a part of human history. Is it a giant VALIS that was sent here to help humanity evolve like the monoliths in 2001:ASO? Or is it alien technology that crashed here by chance whose purpose has been misunderstood and perverted by humans? <BR/><BR/><B>Capcom:</B> Have you seen the Fog of War, Erroll Morris's fantastic documentary on Robert McNamara? Riveting stuff...especially his descriptions of Curtis "Bombs Away" LeMay.Bigmouthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04885083460724621786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-89890705915480000002009-03-17T09:46:00.000-07:002009-03-17T09:46:00.000-07:00Heheh well, as a WW2 history buff, I'd have to dis...Heheh well, as a WW2 history buff, I'd have to disagree with the thought that every mind behind the US military decisions during that time was faulty, but I'll leave it at that. As the saying goes, it's a tough job, and somebody's gotta do it. :o)<BR/><BR/>I have also been thinking that Alvar might have been involved with the bomb test projects (because of his munitions work), and maybe that's how he found out about the island, and the island is what turned his mind around to peaceful pursuits. Who knows, maybe even Alvar is/was on the Hostiles' side?! :-o<BR/><BR/>I agree Darkprose, the Island is the main character for me too. I was even worried when we first heard of the action moving off-island that I wouldn't like the show anymore. But TPTB eased us into that slowly enough to not make it too painful. Although, I still prefer it more when the story is back on the island.<BR/><BR/>Great comments everyone! :-DCapcomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06841675195251354073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-41801701672337291132009-03-17T06:24:00.000-07:002009-03-17T06:24:00.000-07:00is it wed YET!i think this episode is going to bri...is it wed YET!<BR/><BR/>i think this episode is going to bring us back to multiverses<BR/><BR/>ah! that rope, i got lost in time waynesynchrobrarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11330016404676115668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17498689.post-47788147818787216062009-03-16T22:09:00.000-07:002009-03-16T22:09:00.000-07:00@ellipsis, yes, that the area asround the donkey w...@ellipsis, yes, that the area asround the donkey wheel wasn't always frozen. If the well was another entrance to where the wheel was, I'd think it would've been as bit wider, though I could be wrong.<BR/><BR/>@darkprose Palimpsest is one of my favorite words to use in my writings, it certainly applies to each season of LOST.Wayne Allen Salleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17199261942617339556noreply@blogger.com