After Confirmed Dead, Jason raised the provocative possibility that Ben's man on the boat might be Michael. At the time, I cast my lot with Doc Jensen's equally provocative suggestion that the mole was actually Charlotte -- the bulletproof vest demonstration seemed like it had to be planned. But I had a brainstorm recently how Michael might be Ben's agent after all in a scenario that also explains Taller Ghost Walt.
Last we saw Michael and Walt, they were leaving the Island on a boat and bearing of 325, both provided by Ben. Thanks to Frank and Sayid, who departed on a bearing of 305, we know that which direction you leave the Island can affect when you return to the real world. My prediction, based on their experience and Faraday's rocket experiment, is that 325 took Michael and Walt several years into the past...
They found rescue just as Ben promised -- I have a feeling Widmore's freighter has been parked there for some time. Maybe Michael and Walt returned to the world and assumed new identities, but both soon realized that leaving had been a mistake. Or maybe they stayed on the freighter that whole time. However it happened, Ben re-established contact at some point and recruited Mike to be his mole.
Michael and possibly Walt are on the freighter. The former unlocked the sick bay door for Sayid and Des. And that really was Walt -- or rather, his ghostly astral projection -- that appeared to Locke in the ditch. Ghost Walt was taller because it really has been several years from his perspective since leaving the Island with Mike. Kudos to Jason for the call!
Sunday, March 09, 2008
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That does sound pretty logical, actually. I recall reading somewhere that TPTB said there was a really good explanation for Walt being taller when he appeared to Locke, and that they'd reveal it in time. That could very well be it.
Nothing else to say right now, though. Everything's NOT turning out how I thought. Very confusing! Looking forward to more insights from Bigmouth and the rest of the crew who posts here. =P
We also know that Ben comes and goes pretty much whenever he wants. It's very possible we'll see a flashback with Ben meeting up with Michael off of the island.
It's only been a few days since Walt showed up to Locke and when the freighters arrived. He could have stowed away or jumped off the freighter and beat them to the island. For all we know, he could still be on the island.
The use of compass coordinates makes me look at the arrow on the Swan mural. The arrow is pointing closer to heading 325 degrees than 305 degrees.
Also I've been wanting to through this out there for a while. Is there a chance this whole thing is a closed time loop and that the ship off shore is the same one that Daniel was on. Maybe that's why Ben wanted her and her daughter to head for the hills. Daniel is just off in the head enough to not be able to put it all together except sometimes she seems to know or remember things about Ben and the others. I always think of the line she said about Ben when we first met him--"he lies". Boy she wasn't kidding.
Wow, great thought on them going back in time, that would be very cool.
I get the going back in time part, but wouldn't that presuppose that freighter's just been sitting there for the past couple of years? If M&W pass through the barrier back in 2001 and get captured, then the freighter would still have to be there three years later in this time.
Even if they returned to the world in 2001, wouldn't they realize there were other versions of them living at the same time? Michael might be tempted to undo some of his mistakes if he didn't care about the possible paradoxes. He might also try to prevent the crash of 815, which would undo all the damage he'd caused.
I just don't see M&W actually going back in time. I think it's more likely they aged a couple years in transit on that heading. Maybe Ben knew, maybe he didn't, but when they emerged they were re-contacted by Ben. No doubt confused at the time lag, M&W agree to be rescued by the boat Ben knows is offshore, and in exchange for answers and assistance, Michael operates as Ben's mole.
Walt, using his more-developed abilities, projects to Locke and warns him to continue his duty.
I don't think Ben has the ability to travel in time and space at will - I think he has to use his hidden room to do it, and from the point he and the Others left the barracks to right now when he's now been freed, he hasn't been able to talk to Michael.
Perhaps they just end up off the island at an earlier point in time. Michael knows that the O815 crashes on said date but nobody can locate it. Not until Desmond's electromagnetic pulse goes off, does the crew know for sure. They could be in a holding pattern until the day Michael remembered it happening the first time around. He might know the general location, but not the specifics.
Ben could have been coming and going through the island via the submarine and ran into Michael.
DJ: Yes, my hope is we'll see it this season, though who knows with the shortened episode run...
Anonymous: Interestingly, if you look closely at Danielle's maps, the notation 325 appears faintly, so that bearing has long been significant. When I see that arrow on the Swan Mural, I think of Desmond's comment to Jack about having to "lift it up, brotha!" Which is to say, I take it as a clue that Des was the painter...
To clarify, which ship off the shore do you mean? If it's the one that rescued Michael, I think that's a distinct possibility. I believe Widmore's freighter has been parked outside the Island's wormhole for some time. They probably just rotate the crew every so often...
Jason: Yes, I personally am ready for them to embrace physical time travel. Besides Taller Ghost Walt, this would also explain that polar bear in the Tunisian desert and the bunnies from the Orchid Orientation...
Barry: See my comments above to anonymous. My speculation is that Widmore's freighter has been there for some time -- possibly even since Des first disappeared on his sailing race. I agree that Mike would be tempted to undo the past, but he would presumably be stopped by course correction. Alternatively, he may never have returned to society, remaining instead on the freighter all that time. In that case, maybe he agreed to be Ben's mole before leaving the Island.
I agree Ben may not be able to transcend time and space himself, but I don't think it has anything to do with his secret room. My guess is that Ben depends on some combo of Jacob and special children like Walt for that ability...
AndroidGuys: I like the notion of Widmore's crew being in a "holding pattern" until the discharge! Michael either doesn't know how to get back to the Island -- or is simply lying. What's important is that he confirms Desmond's description of the discharge, which keeps the Freighter folks looking for the Island.
I like your theory, very plausible.
I think Ben has maybe figured out how to manipulate the island barrier to allow his departures and arrivals to any time he wants.
There had to be some mechanism by which Michael could not alter the future if he arrived a few years in the past. Maybe Ben kept or threatened Walt somehow to keep Michael in line?
You've been on a roll, keep up the good work.
hatchling: The mechanism that prevents Michael from changing the future is course correction. He can't do anything that will prevent himself or anyone else who was present for activation of the Fail-Safe from going to the Island.
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