First, apologies to everyone for taking longer than usual to post this recap. I hate it when work interferes with more important things (ha, ha). On the plus side, I was in New York City, where I used to live and love to visit. The food was typically fantastic, and the weather unusually so. But it was nonetheless nice to return home to sunny LA, where everything is so much...easier. Uh oh, now I'm starting to sound like Paul Simon in Annie Hall.
Speaking of returning home, a big(mouth) welcome back to Lost's own prodigal son, Nestor Carbonell. I absolutely loved Richard Alpert as a kind of creepy Professor X figure recruiting special children for his school, which was presumably on the Island. This brings to mind my speculation the Island of Lost Children, which seems mostly wrong in retrospect with a few nuggets of prescience sprinkled throughout. More specifically, it does indeed seem that the Island is a kind of orphanage for special children. And Ben does in fact appear to have usurped control of the orphanage for his own ends.
The test Richard gives to young Locke is modeled after the real test used to pick the next Dalai Lama. After he dies, objects belonging to the previous Dalai Lama are presented to young children, who are told to choose the items that already belong to them. The child who correctly chooses these objects from a group is thought to be the reincarnation of the previous Lama. For those interested in learning more about the Dalai Lama, I can't recommend Martin Scorsese's film Kundun highly enough. It's beautifully acted, shot, and edited, with a quietly urgent score by Philip Glass that complements the movie marvelously.
So, is John Locke the reincarnation of Jacob? It's possible but I actually doubt it, despite the reincarnation reference. Notice how Locke drew a picture of Cerberus smoke monster apparently killing someone. Notice, as well, how some of the objects (e.g., sand, compass, knife) correspond with items we've seen Locke use on the Island. Maybe the special talent Locke possesses is an ability to transcend spacetime such that he really does "already own" the various objects in question. The prophetic dreams are a manifestation of this talent. Ben mentions that he "used to have dreams, too," which would explain his apparent foreknowledge, as well.
Why did Richard react so negatively to Locke picking the knife? It's possible the latter chose incorrectly in the sense that the object never belonged to him. But I actually associate Locke first and foremost with knives -- even more than the compass. I get the sense that his choice was wrong in the sense that it signaled violence and aggression. Locke is destined somehow to play a pivotal role in events that signal either the end of the world or a new beginning. Perhaps his choice of the knife is a sign that events are leaning toward the former. Here are some other thoughts and reactions I had to Cabin Fever:
* Emily Locke is playing Buddy Holly before her date. Holly, of course, died in plane crash.
* Just who do you suppose was driving that car? What if it's the same person who drove the car that hit Michael?
* Grandma Locke mentions that Emily's boyfriend (and presumably the father of her child) is more than twice Emily's age. As a poster named Kansasgal perceptively notes, that makes it unlikely Anthony Cooper was John's real father. If that were so, Cooper would have been 79 at the time of his death -- not impossible but certainly implausible given that Kevin Tigh (the actor who plays Cooper) is about ten years younger.
* So Emily Locke had John prematurely at six months -- just like Emily Linas had Ben.
* Interesting how the Captain doesn't seem to be in charge of the expedition. Keamy is apparently on equal footing with the Captain. Does that mean Keamy is now in charge?
* Keamy's misfiring gun brings to mind Michael's inability to commit suicide. This is probably a good time to reiterate my prediction that Michael cannot die until some event -- perhaps another purple sky incident -- takes place. Once that happens and they return to civilization, Sayid will kill Michael, maybe even at the latter's request.
* Was Dharma building the cabin or rebuilding it? The architectural plans suggest the former. But how much you want to bet that Horace Godspeed had a dream about where and how to build that cabin?
* "That's probably because I've been dead for 12 years." Well, well, well...looks like the Purge did indeed happen in 1992, as speculated in "I Am Not Alone..." But before I take credit where it isn't due, let me confess that I had some inside knowledge on this one. The script for the Man Behind the Curtain actually specifies the year of the Purge as 1992.
* A lot of folks seem confused by this timing, which implies that Alex was taken before the Purge.
* Is Grandma Locke smoking her cigarette backwards? Some have been quick to seize upon this as a subtle clue that something is wrong with this scene. Was John Locke supposed to survive the crash? Did he somehow exert some control over his destiny even in utero to save himself and his mother? Does Locke make his own luck ? Then again, upon closer inspection, Grandma's cigarette is filterless, so perhaps this is all much ado about nothing...
* Love that shot of Richard in the hospital. In view of my recent post the Lost Bible, one wonders if his ageless character is a nod to the myth of the Wandering Jew...
* Hurley is absolutely correct that he, Locke, and Ben can all see the cabin because they're the craziest. Remember how one of the other patients at SRMI saw Charlie's ghost talking to Hurley? There's something about mental illness that opens minds to communication with Jacob. The same is true of mental trauma, which is why Claire began seeing visions after being hit in the head, and why Jack saw Christian while delerious. I believe Jack's operation was crucial to setting up a family reunion with Claire and Christian in the Cabin. Which reminds me, my Schizophrenic Theory of Lost is due for an update...
* "Pit" stop -- get it?
* Locke mentioned that Dharma made the ranch dressing Hurley loves so much. But we now know that everyone in Dharma died twelve years ago. Did the Others take over production of the Dharma ranch, or have those food drops been coming from the past?
* Interesting how both Ben and Locke both insist upon referring to Hurley as "Hugo."
* Who led the Others before Ben and ordered the Purge? Some say Charles Widmore, but I have a hard time buying that. Could it be Jacob?
* It cracks me up how the Captain, who seemed like such a badass when we first met him, seems totally helpless when confronted by Keamy.
* The "secondary protocol" is presumably the Orchid Station. Widmore knows about it because he was an investor in the Dharma Initiative.
* Interesting how Locke was supposed to be a man of science but fought his fate tooth and nail. Interesting, as well, how Richard Alpert is himself a man of science despite working for Jacob, who supposedly hates technology.
* I believe the exchange between Michael and Frank is further indication that Charles Widmore didn't stage that second crash of Oceanic 815. It was Chronology Protection Agents like Ms. Hawking, Brother Campbell, and possibly even Daniel Abaddon. As I describe in Lost Time, the second crash was staged to prevent a butterfly effect that risked changing the future. Widmore has a vested interest in convincing people the wreckage is real because he controls this future in which Oceanic 815 crashed, killing everyone onboard.
* Is that device on Keamy's arm some kind of mechanism that destroys the Freighter if Keamy dies?
* "I've been on that Island for three years. I'm never setting foot on there again. Not when Penny's coming for me." I'm guessing that Desmond's line is ironic foreshadowing. I believe he will learn that he must return to the Island to be reunited with Penny. For whatever reason, the two will decide to remain there together...
* Who is Matthew Abaddon? I mentioned earlier that he might be a Chronology Protection Agent. But something about the way he addressed John as "Mr. Locke" reminded me of Walt. Is it possible Abaddon is Walt from the future?
* Interesting how Locke specifically mentioned that there was a 98% chance he would never get any feeling back in his legs. For someone capable of affecting probability (e.g., Jacob or even Locke himself) a 2% chance is all you need. Indeed, the odds of surviving an eight-story fall from a window and a catastrophic plane crash are even slimmer -- though, again, not impossible.
* Am I the only one who thought of the Al Michaels's call of the Miracle on Ice when Abaddon asked Locke if he believes in miracles? Yes!!!!
* "The Island wanted me to get sick." I believe this is further confirmation that Jacob did indeed give Ben cancer as punishment for the latter's betrayal, as I describe in the Cancer Man's Con.
* As I noted last week, Christian doesn't appear to be wearing his suit and white tennis shoes. Why and where did he get the new duds?
* Claire seems surprisingly sanguine given that she's been separated from Aaron. I'm reminded of her carefree demeanor during her stay in the Caduceus Medical Station, which was presumably the result of some drug. I wonder, though, who else she's met while in this dreamy state. Was she reunited with Charlie, who informed her that everything will be fine with Aaron?
* Where is the baby supposed to be? If he's the Anti-Christ, the answer is off the Island so he can destroy the world. Evil Aaron! Natas! Redrum!
* Locke said they're supposed to "move the Island," and I can summarize how they'll do it in two words: purple sky. I'll expand on this in a separate post, but to summarize briefly, I believe there will be another purple sky event before the end of the season. This event will involve the Orchid Station, which is the mysterious "frozen donkey wheel" that Darlton have been hyping. The effect of this purple sky event will be to shift the Island in spacetime, which is why Ben had to double-check the time and date after waking up in the desert.
Thursday, May 08, 2008
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Hey, nothing to see here, people. Just keep moving along in an orderly fashion...
Said this in the previous post because I was impatient, but yeah, I knew there was something significant about Mikhail's remark that "the John Locke *he* knew..." blank...
Creepy! Reincarnation enters the LOST arena!
I was just trying to be funny there, but I DID forget to add something. In last week's post, Bigmouth asked if there was a wormhole near Portland. I think that the whole Portland thing just had to be used for the purpose of tghe title of an episode, then needed to be used as a location; maybe the sub goes through a wormhole from a different heading than straight towards Fiji, like moving towards Japan or something. Long before I discovered this blog, I thought that the true meaning behind the Juilet flashback "Not In Portland" was that it sounded (to ME) as if it could mean "Not Important". Asking Alpert where the job was, him answering well, where the Island is is not important. It's what you do ON the Island. Guess we are seeing that going on right now.
kinda slow episode for me, but i thought it moved the story along. i loved seeing alpert visiting locke as a child. and who was the orderly talking to locke?? is claire dead? why is jacob using christian to talk to locke and why in the heck doesn't christian say, hey locke i think you know my son, Jack! ahh, it would make me feel better! and oh this is my daughter claire...
oh and my fav part last night:
"So, this is where you shot Locke and left him for dead, huh?"
"Yes, Hugo, I was standing right where you're standing now when I pulled the trigger."
gotta love hurley!
So was that little glass jar of powder the same ash substance used around Jacob's shack??? and was THAT was Locke was supposed to choose?
Lisa - that was Matthew Abbaddon, a guy we've seen before. He's bothered Hurley in flash-forwards and he gave Naomi her marching orders for the trip to the Island in a flash-back. His affiliations are unclear... he may be with Widmore, he may not.
Skid - I don't think the granules in the jar were the ash stuff. Those items were things that Locke's past self owned, and Richard wanted to see if this really was Locke in a new body. Because if it was, then he was gonna wanna snatch him and bring him back to the Island. These kinds of things may have happened to Walt, too... dunno. Either way, Locke thought the knife was his, but his past self apparently had nothing to do with knives? This new one certainly grew to like them, anyway, so perhaps the current incarnation of Locke has new personality additions that didn't show up in previous ones.
That whole reincarnation thing is all conjecture, of course, but it seems pretty compelling. o.O And I'm going to pass it as fact now since Mikhail said he knew John Locke!
I thought before that maybe there was some terrible bloodshed by the freighter people or many decided to stay behind on the island for there only to be 6 to get off.
I wonder now if the first group gets off with Sayid & then are unable to find the remaining survivors because Locke is able to move the island.
I have $1000 says that Anthony Cooper (aka Tom Sawyer; aka Locke's dad) was also behind the wheel of the car that ran down Emily. Thus making it the first, but not the last time he tried to kill John.
IIRC Anthony Cooper said, "you needed a father, I needed a kidney" to Locke. Doesn't that imply that he just conned him and had nothing to do with Locke's conception. I know Locke called him dad in "The Man from Tallahassee" but that was just because he never knew his real father and once believed Cooper to be. Someone correct me if I'm wrong...
Well I *believe* there's enough evidence to support that Cooper was Locke's biological father... I don't think the DNA guy was paid off, and Ben's sources are traditionally correct (he knows everything about every 815 passenger, and the file he had for Locke seems to have jived pretty well with this).
And anon, hah, you may be right -- wow. I hadn't thought of that.
...dude.
While Matthew's talking to John in the hospital... Listen really closely. REALLY closely. There's something wrong.
Matthew: I went on my walkabout convinced I was one thing, but I came back another. I found out what I was made of, *who I was*.
The part in stars... they added some processing under his voice very quietly. Makes him sound downright demonic.
Maybe it's just the audio compression in this version I downloaded, but it doesn't come up anywhere else, so...
It's like the writers are giving us a subtle hint that who Matthew is, is someone or something very sinister.
This is obviously very much like Malkin telling Claire she needed to go to California to give up Aaron... she eventually thought enough about the advice and took it. And for both Claire and John, taking the advice of a very persuasive person has landed them on the Island. The advisers did it on purpose.
And with all the stuff swirling around John in this episode, about him seemingly being some sort of reincarnation or extremely special person... I get the impression that Matthew and John are probably the two sides of the coin, the Black and White, that the writers keep dangling in front of us. There have been clues (before this episode downright gave it away) to hint at this (at least in relation to John), but now I think it's all coming together. John needed to reach the Island so he could remember who he's supposed to be. Now, why the knife was a problem to Richard, I'm not sure, but this is definitely making sense... at least to me.
But yeah, regardless, CREEPY VOCAL EFFECTS! OOOOH!
Interesting thought Jennifer!
I think that Abaddon said exactly the same thing to Locke, as the young orderly guy said on the first time around that scene after therapy. It was the episode where we saw Locke get pushed out the window, and the kid said the same thing to him about being very lucky to survive an 8-story fall. Hmmmm.
DJ, you said earlier that Locke perhaps did not know the item to choose, because he chose the wrong one. But he seemed quite intelligent especially for at such a young age.
He could have known what was happening, and chose the wrong one on purpose.
Yeah, possibly. I don't know what's up with the knife.
Could have also been fate mucking around with things to throw things off, perhaps to spare him and let him live a somewhat normal life for a while? =P
Interesting DJ and Txghost. It might have also been a rebellion thing as well...like if Li'l John had a sense of which one he was expected to choose but, "no one tells me what to do dammitt!" So he chose the knife over the preferred item and he did not get the brass ring so to speak. So then began the psychological spark of the "Blow Everything Up" theme in John's life of bad emotional choices.
Richard's PO'd attitude could have also been because he sensed John's rebelliousness too. Because there may be no place for that kind of attitude when you are supposed to lead the island by following orders from "Him".
Gah! I forgot to post a comment so I could subscribe to everyone's feedback earlier.
Great comments!
Ok... This may come out disjointed and "Coo-coo" but I'm gonna give it a shot anyway.
Have you ever taken LSD or smoked Salvia and had that ethereal "otherwordly" feeling that reality as we know it is but a thin veneer and underneath the perceived notion of reality is the actual truth? A truth so incomprehensible compared to the veneer of reality that one feels as if one might lose his/her mind if one dares to look much longer? A truth, almost Lovecraftian in nature, that nothing is what it seems and what lies beneath is boiling up fast and not only your sanity, but your very soul is in peril if you look much longer? Couple that with the horrific realization that just about damn near ~everyone~ you have ever known has been privy to this base knowledge from day one yet has neglected to tear the veil and allow you to look until such time as when you finally do and they greet you with total normalcy once you tear that veil as if to say, "Yes. We've been here waiting for you to ~finally~ figure it out?!?"
.... Yeah... me neither.
;)
However, that was the feeling I got the moment I saw Claire in that cabin.... My "doors of perception" were blown off the hinges and I swear to you, I channeled my inner-hippie as if I were having a bad acid trip at woodstock!
Meh... Told you that wouldn't make sense.
Anon - Damn! Something tells me you win $1,000!
DJ - I don't think I caught creepy vocal effect but there was ~something~ about that scene that threw me too! ... it's as if I was ~sure~ that Abbadon was going to toss him down those stairs and (if he had) Locke would have had a revelation so huge it would have shook the world in a very "Matrix-like" fashion. I don't know if it was the camera angles, the sound FX or what but It seriously made my heart pound!
In fact, this whole episode screamed to me, "There is NO spoon!!"
... but Claire creeped me out the most.
((sigh)) I know I'm not explaining myself right but does anyone remotely kinda get what I'm sayin here?
I think Christian and Claire looked creepy in the cabin. Maybe it was just the lamp light but it almost looked like Christian's face was decomposing a little and Claire was almost Zombie like.
Jennifer - the same thought struck me that maybe only 6 "survived" before the island is moved or appears moved. Maybe that's why Jack still can't find it in the flash forward. I can imagine that would drive you crazy if you want to get back somewhere and it's like it doesn't exist. I do like this idea so we don't have to think that only 6 lived. I'm still clinging to hope that more survivors are still on the island and that they will all be reunited by the series end.
Lolagrrl, your post makes sense. Except I dream like that 90% of the time, even without, drinking, or smoking. (I take meds for my cerebral palsy, and drink wayyyy too much coffee). I think you saw Christian differently because he was not in a suit. But Claire did have a pretty peaceful look on her face.
That Orchid logo is different from the logo Ben had in Tunisia. I saw two petals. I've read there are three levels to the Orchid station, and Haliwx says on the Orientation film that the station was meant for something else and that deception was necessary.
PS Anybody know why I'm not getting pings or whatever swhen there's another comment made? This stopped a few weeks ago, and I keep forgetting to mention...
Sorry. Meant Christie re: how Christian looked, etc.
Wayne,
Yes! See, I dream like that too... maybe I used the wrong references but I do know that certain psychotropics can cause that same sensation... *ahem*... at least, that's what I've read...Meh... Who am I kidding. If you remember the 90's you weren't there (IMHO) ;D
Lolagrrl: I remember the 50s, if only a few months. I can't wait until 2010 when I can tell everyone I've been alive for seven mother-lovin' decades!!! (I'll only be 5), you see...). Only way I can avoid the dreams is to sleep only about four hours a night.
I was just reading some theories on Lostpedia, and someone suggested that Matthew is actually a grown-up Walt.
http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Cabin_Fever/Theories
Discuss! =O
I saw that too DJ. What I don't get, is if that is true, how do they explain that Taller Ghost Walt told Locke to kill Naomi, who Walt/Abaddon hired for the job in the first place? I'm sure that we could think up complicated reasons why that could happen, but I dunno. Unless Walt/Abaddon is as evil as Keamy, and would just kill her off after he's done with her and she's in the way.
And yes, I remember LSD, and I also remember the 60s/70s, that was during my Carlos Castaneda phase. :o) LSD was interesting, but not meant for the squeemish.
Ok... So I was playing that lost "find the secret item" game so I could wix tix to Comic con (found secret item but the link was broken... damn!
Anyway, I was watching the clips and I noticed that Horace tells John Locke that he's been dead for 12 years... but Rousseau has been stranded on the island, playing that recording for 16 years.... So Ben Kidnapped Alex ~before~ the purge?!? Wha??
Somebody 'splain pleeze!!!!
That's how it seems so far, Lolagrrl. Your guess is as good as anyone's at this point. :-) There is also the theory that she was a part of the DI who arrived via her DI science boat, and she just went crazy and forgot.
I had to play the Lost game five times before the shotgun and entry form came up for me.
Capcom I ax was my secret item but when I went to the link, it wasn't there. Fun game tho!
Hey all, the recap is now posted -- thanks again for your patience!
Capcom... too true. Walt ordering his own goon's execution is a little far-fetched.
And you're right, there are a number of ways we could twist that around and play with it to make it work, but eh?
Hey, someone, just to put my mind at ease... can we confirm/deny that effects were added to Matthew's voice where I mentioned it above? I just can't shake the feeling that it was made to sound sinister by design.
I'll have to watch it again to see DJ. You know, they could have messed with his voice like the did with Kate's and Ben's, when they didn't want to reveal them right away in the FFs. Cheaters.
Haha... no no, this isn't just... fuzzing... making it ambiguous... this sounds like downright additional processing. =P
Sup all...not sure if anyone mentioned this but I had a thought about christian. BM mentions how Christian's appearance changed...notably his clothing. I believe the Christian we see in the suit and white shoes is strickly the appearance of Smokey...using his body from the coffin to take Christians form. Smokey appears as Christian would have looked in the coffin. The Christian we have been seeing lately I believe is the corporeal form of Christian's spirt. Just like Claire is now a corporeal form of her former self. The Christian we've seen recently has that suave swagger that we come to expect from him. The Suited Christian is more monotonous and robot like. I could be completely wrong IDK just an idea
SPOON
Capcom: What if taller ghost Walt made a mistake? One older Abaddon Walt is trying to rectify?
Lolagrrl: LOL! Seriously, though, you may be onto something. Remember, Locke did dose Boone with psychedelic paste to help the latter connect with the Island. Also, as I mention above, Claire seemed to be tripping on the same sour happy juice they gave her in Caduceus.
I just wanted to put this here for all the intelligent minds that come through here. Here are some interesting anagrams for Richard Alpert: "Rare Trap Child" "Rarer Apt Child" "A Trap Child Err" "A Rapt Child Err"
And Big, Earlier in your post you were talking about CPA agents, specifically you mentioned "Daniel Abaddon." I figured it was a typo, but still checked out some anagrams for the name, accidentally mis-spelling Abaddon with 2 b's and 1 d. What I came up with was:
Abandon Dad Lie.
How cool would that have been?!
M: Very cool with the anagram! For some reason, my mind always wants to call Matthew Abaddon "Daniel" and Gerald DeGroot "Charles"...LOL!
Great bullet points as usual. I thought the same thinga bout Gualt, that he got very wimpy and unsure of himself all of a sudden. I was sad to see him go, I hoped that his character would get fleshed out some more.
Interesting point too, Big, about T.G.Walt trying to correct as Abaddon...if they are the same. I wonder if Locke ever said to little Walt that he owed him one, in the beginning. I believe that Hurley did, when he lost a bunch of money to Walt playing backgammon.
It IS pretty sad about the Captain. They had some serious potential there, but poof, gone.
Whatever happened to "DON'T TRUST THE CAPTAIN"? That sounded pretty ominous. But shoot man, he was a perfect little puppy, why wouldn't you trust him? He didn't do anything evil... wasn't given the chance!
Is it at all possible that due to the strike, the writers just ran out of episodes and simply didn't have enough time to explore a story arc for him?
Yo, M The Alien, Bigmouth, and CapCom. Talking about anagrams, I have ALWAYS been baffled by the Hurley flashback "Tricia Tanaka Is Dead." What a strange title. I've tried for months (off and on) to find something hidden in the title or even the reporter's name. I mean, what is the importance of that title as opposed to say "The Numbers Curse Kills People" if you get what I'm saying. Why so specific a title reference?
Yeah Wayne, you've got a point there, it's a strange one. I don't get some of the titles myself and that's one of them. Why that as opposed to "Mr. Cluck's Is Dead" also? Heheh. As for her name, I think that it is a take-off of an Asian reporter's name on Fox's "Family Guy" show...her name is Tricia Tanakawana, or something like that. Why they would copy that, I have no idea.
Maybe you're right about the WGA strike affecting the captain's screen time DJ. After the build buildup of him, like you said...the messages, being portrayed as a take-no-prisoners (or save-no-jumpers) kind of guy, it seemed like TPTB were leading us somewhere and all of a sudden he's gone. I wanted to know more about the Doc too.
Here's 3 anagrams for TTID:
A Sanitaria Cadet Kid
A Satanic Dead Air Kit
It Aided A Satanic Ark
Personally I just figured they were just being humorous about the name, even so, the name of that episode just seems out of place to me. That episode had some awesome shots of Hurley and Charlie on the beach. Same episode had Sawyer drinking 12 year old Dharma beer -bleeeehh! They could've named the ep "This beer is old(but Sawyer's gonna drink it anyway)" My favorite moment in that ep was Hurley hugging Sawyer, the look on Sawyer's face was great! lol
I agree about the captain, but now i'm taking the warning note about the captain differently. Not so much as a warning that he's a threat, but that he's a weasel.
Just to elaborate, when I said the captain was a weasel, I meant a weasel like Quark from Deep Space Nine. He's ok to talk to, but don't trust him!
I miss the captain, he was sexy :(
Who the hell does Abaddon work for??? Ahhh
And also, I will cry when Lost ends, but I also want it to end and still :(
Great work.
rianne: Thanks -- and stay tuned for the first Bigmouth audio podcast, which will hopefully be up before the new season starts.
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